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Ralph Nader will be in Madison Tonight

You missed Ralph Nader because you were listening to Bill Clinton in Denver. No, Problem. Ralph Nader is coming to Madison just for you. He is on more ballots than he was in 2000, and he is coming to play ball.

I hear the Capital Times will have their own reporters there covering this hometown event.

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11 responses to “Ralph Nader will be in Madison Tonight

  1. Voted for Nadar in 2000 and 2004, but I think the best/worst that Nadar can acheive is a candidate is to throw the election to McCain who consolidates a rightwing SC overturnign Roe v. Wade, among other catastrophic judicial policymaking.

    And McCain is as hard-right as Bush.

  2. You do realize that is the fate your sealing, don’t you? By being an Obama Apologist, you give Obama an extremely large right leaning cushion, who like Gore and Kerry, will go down in defeat.

    It seems to me Roe v. Wade will be a lot safer in a McCain than an Obama presidency. Trust me if Obama gets in it will be his welfare reform. Frankly, I trust the Democrats more with a McCain than I do with an Obama.

  3. Obama has come out strongly pro-choice (100% NARAL Rating). Do you really believe that he will appoint anti-choice, rightwing judges?

    McCain has said repeatedly that he will appoint judges like Alito and Roberts.

    “Roe v. Wade will be a lot safer in a McCain than an Obama presidency,” is a ludicrous assertion. Are you kidding? When has McCain ever taken a pro-choice position? From McCain’s website: “Human Dignity and the Sanctity of Life Overturning Roe v. Wade”

    “John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench.”
    See http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Issues/95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm

    Your response, Mr. Dubb? Care to restract your comment?

  4. How they “come out” is pretty irrelevant. The argument is not where Obama or McCain stand on this or that issue. The issue is how a strongly Democratic congress will respond. I have more faith in that congress standing up for “progressive” issues under McCain than I do Obama.

    Come on Mal, you have not noticed the number of pro-life Democrats winning in record numbers in those red states. Republicans will NOT overturn Roe vs Wade, it would be a death sentence. Abortion would cease to be a moral issue and instead become a legal one outside the political realm.

    If I was a betting man, it would be the Dems overturning Roe vs Wade. They would keep folks like you who understand this is just one more thing Obama has to do to get elected, and it would take away the one weapon Republicans have counted on for the last 30 years. Just ask NARAL about Penn. and who they endorse there.

  5. Jesse

    I have to wonder what happened to Ralph Nader. I marched in Boston on October 3, 2000, suffered through tear gas, all in an attempt to get him into the debates. But the man has become a shell of his former self over the last eight years. He has made it about himself and not about us. I can’t support someone like him anymore. His vision is lacking. Even Winona LaDuke, his amazing VP pick from 2000, doesn’t support him anymore.

    Meanwhile, Jim Hightower is in town with Phil Donahue at the Barrymore tonight. Same time as the Nader rally. I know where I will be.

  6. Emily

    Dubb – I can kind of understand where you’re coming from on this, but I think you’re dead wrong. Betting that stormier relations between Congress and the president would be more likely to produce positive results has not, in these past 8 years, borne any real fruit. Obama has come out as strongly pro-choice, and the vast majority of the country seems to favor keeping Roe v. Wade intact, too. So while you’re right when you say overturning it would be political suicide for Republicans, the same goes for Democrats as well. Only, the Democrats seem to have a great deal more actual pro-choice members than do the Republicans.

    So I’m sorry, but I really don’t think your argument holds water.

  7. Let me see if I can boil this down.

    Candidate A says he’s against Roe Vs. Wade.
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/John_McCain_Abortion.htm

    Candidate B says he supports it.
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Barack_Obama_Abortion.htm

    and was given 100% by NARAL.

    So your logical leap here is that both of them are lying? How and why?

  8. Jesse

    I used to buy that whole “it would be suicide to overturn it” theory, but it is very clear that they have been stacking the Supreme Court to do just that. If you don’t see that then you need to take a second look and do some serious soul searching. Look at the pick of Sarah Palin! She is running that ticket now and she is a proxy of the anti-choice, anti-equal rights, anti-civil union evangelicals in this country.

  9. If McCain were to win, the administration’s SC nominees would play the same ‘can’t-anwser’that-question-about-a-case’ game that Roberts and Alito did.

    Your argument is betting on a woman’s right to choose based on Senators’ spines on SC confirmations.

    If Obama is president and we have a largely Democratic Congress, we can at push for a legislative expansion of a woman’s right to choose, which is under constant attack by the states.

  10. Jesse,

    Ask Phil where how he met the young lad the film is about.

    Emily,

    Research new members since 2006 and see if they are pro life or pro choice. Dems that are winning in a 50 state strategy tend to be pro life. The Dems Obama has built himself around lean pro life. Here is an article on Pelosi warming up to pro life Dems to get legislation passed.

    I see it as a non issue politically anyway. It is just symbolic anyway. Yes, there are a few clinics in WI, but most middle American states have to travel to MN for an abortion. Eventually, having this as an obstacle just won’t be worth the energy.

    The whole if McCain is Prez just does not measure up. The only way he gets a pro life judge in is with the Democrats blessing. It has nothing to do with McCain but trust of Democrats. Obama will not put up a pro life judge, but someone nuanced who will later vote to overturn.

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